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		<title>Comment on New Buds by Filo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filo</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on New Buds by mari</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.........and carries on........yes ... and the same it&#039;s for me... my dear friend</description>
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		<title>Comment on Nomads &amp; The Evicted &#8216;Teacher&#8217; by Mick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice talking to you on Saturday. Your piece on Nomadic Life is a good insight into those aspects of who we all are, not just the so-called &#039;Travellers&#039;. Stillness in the &#039;Mind&#039; can sometimes give one a sense of greater peace. Just as &#039;Settling&#039; for a place of permanency enables individuals and communities to develop in a more peaceful setting and cultures to unfold in different and more interesting ways. By taming and cultivating those parts of our mind that enhance our creativity and those parts of nature that we feel most connected to, we discover all manner of diversity and create many more ways of relating to the world. 

A natural progression one might argue? But with those developments we tend to lose touch with a wilder, more naturalistic part of our ‘being’ and as a society, start to sink into a more artificial existence than we might of otherwise chosen - leading our ‘wilder’ and perhaps our more authentic side, to retreat into the shadows. 

The price we pay for greater levels of sophistication and comfort is that the natural world becomes something a bit alien to us and is seen more as a resource, to prop up our lifestyles, rather than something we are intimately part of. This makes us more distant and fearful of the wilder more reactionary parts of our minds too, as we lose touch with our more innate, communal identities! 

When lifestyles become more diverse and complex and if we ‘collectively’ forget to a large extent, our shared evolutionary routes, the ways in which people identify themselves will become ever more divisive; making it even harder to take seriously a common bond that isn’t just about the practical aspects of life. 

What beliefs arise as a result of this departure can, if not kept in check, give rise to a perverted or twisted view of whom, or rather &#039;what&#039; we really are as &#039;humans&#039; and our place or roll in the world. 

My belief right now, having worn out my &#039;naval&#039; from years of contemplating my own inner thoughts, hopes, fears, confusions, sense of inadequacy and incompleteness; let alone my search for acceptance, recognition, validation and the occasional ‘killer’ one-liner, witty remark, is that we, not all perhaps, but certainly most of us, are living a &#039;Lie&#039;. 

It is not intentional. Nor are we necessarily conscious of it. However, the lie that we mistake for the truth is this… ‘We are who we think we are and pretend that we are not ignoring the fact that we do not really know!’ 

Maybe there is no way of completely knowing what we really are and maybe, just maybe, that’s ok!  Maybe, all we can ever really hope to know or find out, is what we ‘are not’ and learn to live with that?

And so… we create beliefs and find distractions. 

Beliefs that make us feel safer and surer of ourselves; and distractions that take our minds off what we are unsure of! (Actually, we might be forgiven for thinking that a greater proportion of modern life is devoted to distraction more than it is to anything else. That’s how much energy is needed to keep our doubts and fears at bay!)

My hope is this; once we are liberated from the ‘untrue’ all that we will then be left with is the ‘truth’, whatever that is!  The truth in this case isn’t like the search for an idyllic identity. It is more a process of dis-identity, a de-programming, an elimination of that, which is false.  So it’s not so much the search for ‘what is true’, but more the recognition of the presence of what is false! 

If life becomes a process of not just an accumulation of knowledge, but an elimination of falsehoods too, a continual process, we can then never really settle for a belief system that fixes the world and states with certainty who the enemy is, whereby turning them into the source of our woe.

It’s not just our doubts and fears that cause conflict either, but it can be our certainty! Our certainty of whom we think we are. If we can learn to live with those parts of ourselves we are unsure of and fear the most, then being ‘righteous’ becomes less appealing and our dependency on the ‘moral high ground’ far less necessary.  

The fear of change and what we see as ‘foreign’ or culturally unacceptable is something we may understand better if we stop to question the idea that our cultural identity and what that includes, plays the biggest part in our reality and start seeing our version of reality as just a preference that’s been influenced more by the accident of our birth than it has by knowing the truth!

It’s not just a question of agreeing what else there is beyond our personal or collective identities either - if anything - spiritual or otherwise. Or whether hierarchies, elitism, groups, laws and rules have their place or not; they do and must be allowed, as it’s the only way society can run itself. But it’s ultimately, the degree to which we are conscious of how our views of the world are dominated by a pre-conditioned understanding or acquired prejudices, rather than a personal growing wisdom.
  
The clash between the so-called travellers and so-called settlers is not necessarily, to do with whose wrong or right. Its cause has as much to do with a mistaken identity on both sides of the argument, as it has to do with anything else!  People with fixed ideas about who or what they are and the degree to which their place in the world takes precedence over someone else’s, will inevitably meet with resistance and be challenged.  

That’s when we need to highlight our shared underlying commonality, which includes as much as anything else, all our fears, doubts, insecurities and suspicions and addressing what it is that gives those power and makes them mean so much to us, when in truth they may turn out to mean very little! 

Maybe we can only know peace when we have learnt to live with the unsettling state that is caused by the unknown in ourselves, as well as what disturbs us about other cultures and stopped throwing rulebooks at each other! 

What separates us, as people, we cannot ignore, it will always be there to be seen and, therefore, needs to be addressed; but what truly unifies us as creative, compassionate, vulnerable, proud and spiritual human beings, maybe got buried a long time ago, along with those more natural, wilder aspects of our identity and we need to work out how we can engage in the sometimes painful process of digging it all back up and recovering our ‘true selves’. 

And maybe only then, once we’ve done that, we’ll be in a better position to consider whether we want to start up the bulldozers or not!

Mick.      
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice talking to you on Saturday. Your piece on Nomadic Life is a good insight into those aspects of who we all are, not just the so-called &#8216;Travellers&#8217;. Stillness in the &#8216;Mind&#8217; can sometimes give one a sense of greater peace. Just as &#8216;Settling&#8217; for a place of permanency enables individuals and communities to develop in a more peaceful setting and cultures to unfold in different and more interesting ways. By taming and cultivating those parts of our mind that enhance our creativity and those parts of nature that we feel most connected to, we discover all manner of diversity and create many more ways of relating to the world. </p>
<p>A natural progression one might argue? But with those developments we tend to lose touch with a wilder, more naturalistic part of our ‘being’ and as a society, start to sink into a more artificial existence than we might of otherwise chosen &#8211; leading our ‘wilder’ and perhaps our more authentic side, to retreat into the shadows. </p>
<p>The price we pay for greater levels of sophistication and comfort is that the natural world becomes something a bit alien to us and is seen more as a resource, to prop up our lifestyles, rather than something we are intimately part of. This makes us more distant and fearful of the wilder more reactionary parts of our minds too, as we lose touch with our more innate, communal identities! </p>
<p>When lifestyles become more diverse and complex and if we ‘collectively’ forget to a large extent, our shared evolutionary routes, the ways in which people identify themselves will become ever more divisive; making it even harder to take seriously a common bond that isn’t just about the practical aspects of life. </p>
<p>What beliefs arise as a result of this departure can, if not kept in check, give rise to a perverted or twisted view of whom, or rather &#8216;what&#8217; we really are as &#8216;humans&#8217; and our place or roll in the world. </p>
<p>My belief right now, having worn out my &#8216;naval&#8217; from years of contemplating my own inner thoughts, hopes, fears, confusions, sense of inadequacy and incompleteness; let alone my search for acceptance, recognition, validation and the occasional ‘killer’ one-liner, witty remark, is that we, not all perhaps, but certainly most of us, are living a &#8216;Lie&#8217;. </p>
<p>It is not intentional. Nor are we necessarily conscious of it. However, the lie that we mistake for the truth is this… ‘We are who we think we are and pretend that we are not ignoring the fact that we do not really know!’ </p>
<p>Maybe there is no way of completely knowing what we really are and maybe, just maybe, that’s ok!  Maybe, all we can ever really hope to know or find out, is what we ‘are not’ and learn to live with that?</p>
<p>And so… we create beliefs and find distractions. </p>
<p>Beliefs that make us feel safer and surer of ourselves; and distractions that take our minds off what we are unsure of! (Actually, we might be forgiven for thinking that a greater proportion of modern life is devoted to distraction more than it is to anything else. That’s how much energy is needed to keep our doubts and fears at bay!)</p>
<p>My hope is this; once we are liberated from the ‘untrue’ all that we will then be left with is the ‘truth’, whatever that is!  The truth in this case isn’t like the search for an idyllic identity. It is more a process of dis-identity, a de-programming, an elimination of that, which is false.  So it’s not so much the search for ‘what is true’, but more the recognition of the presence of what is false! </p>
<p>If life becomes a process of not just an accumulation of knowledge, but an elimination of falsehoods too, a continual process, we can then never really settle for a belief system that fixes the world and states with certainty who the enemy is, whereby turning them into the source of our woe.</p>
<p>It’s not just our doubts and fears that cause conflict either, but it can be our certainty! Our certainty of whom we think we are. If we can learn to live with those parts of ourselves we are unsure of and fear the most, then being ‘righteous’ becomes less appealing and our dependency on the ‘moral high ground’ far less necessary.  </p>
<p>The fear of change and what we see as ‘foreign’ or culturally unacceptable is something we may understand better if we stop to question the idea that our cultural identity and what that includes, plays the biggest part in our reality and start seeing our version of reality as just a preference that’s been influenced more by the accident of our birth than it has by knowing the truth!</p>
<p>It’s not just a question of agreeing what else there is beyond our personal or collective identities either &#8211; if anything &#8211; spiritual or otherwise. Or whether hierarchies, elitism, groups, laws and rules have their place or not; they do and must be allowed, as it’s the only way society can run itself. But it’s ultimately, the degree to which we are conscious of how our views of the world are dominated by a pre-conditioned understanding or acquired prejudices, rather than a personal growing wisdom.</p>
<p>The clash between the so-called travellers and so-called settlers is not necessarily, to do with whose wrong or right. Its cause has as much to do with a mistaken identity on both sides of the argument, as it has to do with anything else!  People with fixed ideas about who or what they are and the degree to which their place in the world takes precedence over someone else’s, will inevitably meet with resistance and be challenged.  </p>
<p>That’s when we need to highlight our shared underlying commonality, which includes as much as anything else, all our fears, doubts, insecurities and suspicions and addressing what it is that gives those power and makes them mean so much to us, when in truth they may turn out to mean very little! </p>
<p>Maybe we can only know peace when we have learnt to live with the unsettling state that is caused by the unknown in ourselves, as well as what disturbs us about other cultures and stopped throwing rulebooks at each other! </p>
<p>What separates us, as people, we cannot ignore, it will always be there to be seen and, therefore, needs to be addressed; but what truly unifies us as creative, compassionate, vulnerable, proud and spiritual human beings, maybe got buried a long time ago, along with those more natural, wilder aspects of our identity and we need to work out how we can engage in the sometimes painful process of digging it all back up and recovering our ‘true selves’. </p>
<p>And maybe only then, once we’ve done that, we’ll be in a better position to consider whether we want to start up the bulldozers or not!</p>
<p>Mick.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Back To The River by Filo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ciao Enza,
very sorry about your wrestling with those ghosts. 
I hope what needs to emerge does in the end, with the least possible damage and loads of growth.
May your ghosts turn into allies!
Love
Filo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ciao Enza,<br />
very sorry about your wrestling with those ghosts.<br />
I hope what needs to emerge does in the end, with the least possible damage and loads of growth.<br />
May your ghosts turn into allies!<br />
Love<br />
Filo</p>
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		<title>Comment on Back To The River by Enza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ciao Filo,

Facing one of the ghosts at the moment... thanks for putting your thoughts out there for people that like me struggle with letting it happen ; )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ciao Filo,</p>
<p>Facing one of the ghosts at the moment&#8230; thanks for putting your thoughts out there for people that like me struggle with letting it happen ; )</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who Do You Need To Be? by Filo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve, do send your poem over if you like and...erm, I will add instructions as to how this can be done, which I have forgotten to include!

Thank you
Love
Filo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve, do send your poem over if you like and&#8230;erm, I will add instructions as to how this can be done, which I have forgotten to include!</p>
<p>Thank you<br />
Love<br />
Filo</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who Do You Need To Be? by Steve M Nash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve M Nash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funnily, Filo, I wrote a kind of poem today called FLOW. Not the greatest and I won&#039;t share it here, but wrote it I did (whilst swimming, believe it or not) - I will share it with you directly, instead.

Anyway, my question to you, now March has passed and April is upon us (and soon May will follow...) is how do we contribute poems? Just fill in the contact form, or is there another way? And do the poems have to be ours, or do you just want the poetry of published poets?

With love,
Steve

Ps The blog is more than a year old. That is fantastic news! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funnily, Filo, I wrote a kind of poem today called FLOW. Not the greatest and I won&#8217;t share it here, but wrote it I did (whilst swimming, believe it or not) &#8211; I will share it with you directly, instead.</p>
<p>Anyway, my question to you, now March has passed and April is upon us (and soon May will follow&#8230;) is how do we contribute poems? Just fill in the contact form, or is there another way? And do the poems have to be ours, or do you just want the poetry of published poets?</p>
<p>With love,<br />
Steve</p>
<p>Ps The blog is more than a year old. That is fantastic news! <img src='http://allthingsflow.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Stirring&#8230; by Steve M Nash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve M Nash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Filo - I shall do as you suggest :-)

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Filo &#8211; I shall do as you suggest <img src='http://allthingsflow.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Plan Your Next Escape&#8217; by Filo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the very passionate, interesting and rich comments you make here, Mick, they could be a post of their own in fact! And thanks for adding the hopeful perspective that, amongst the induced dreaming states intertwined with what we all bring and generate ourselves, we might begin to catch sight of back-stage scenes, hopefully begin to make more discerning choices, realize a fundamental &#039;freedom&#039; that was always ours. Do write more of these! And I will call in again for more afternoons of putting the world to right and reminding ourselves of our inner homeland! :-)
Filo x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the very passionate, interesting and rich comments you make here, Mick, they could be a post of their own in fact! And thanks for adding the hopeful perspective that, amongst the induced dreaming states intertwined with what we all bring and generate ourselves, we might begin to catch sight of back-stage scenes, hopefully begin to make more discerning choices, realize a fundamental &#8216;freedom&#8217; that was always ours. Do write more of these! And I will call in again for more afternoons of putting the world to right and reminding ourselves of our inner homeland! <img src='http://allthingsflow.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Filo x</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Plan Your Next Escape&#8217; by Mick Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mick Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 19:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautifully put... 

Got me thinking...

Edward Bernays (Freud&#039;s nephew inventor of PR) has a lot to answer for.  He discovered that by tapping into the public&#039;s sub-conscious you can manipulate their behaviour. IE: Sex sells, so if you use sexiness carefully enough or even overtly, you can give the impression you will become more attractive by making certain purchases... And fear sells too. Fear of social isolation especially. The &#039;Because I&#039;m Worth It&#039; society that has been created plays into that fear, by leading you to believe that you are only worth something if you buy into a particular look or cosmetic or holiday package. 

Like I said this afternoon, anyone who has to look into the mirror and tell themselves that they are worth it has already been convinced that they are NOT by the upside down thinking we are subjected to in modern life. The Job done by the merchandising boys and girls merely cleverly plays on our confusion. Your observation about seasonal and ritual human necessities and the way the advertisers really play up to that is very good.  They really do do a thorough job at researching what motivates human behaviour. But once you start not only to see through that stuff - because most people do anyway yet are kind of helpless to do anything significant about it - but to start realising that what or who we really are has nothing to do with what we&#039;ve been led to believe we are, you begin the inexorable journey towards a different kind of freedom from the one you thought you seeked. 

It&#039;s a tricky path and is fraught with emotional/psychological booby traps, but with a bit of luck you start to see that this state of freedom was there all along! It was just buried beneath and corrupted by the totally false sense of commoditized self that&#039;s been created and tipped into our heads since we were let loose on or exposed to the democratic, commercialised, capitalist free market that we have been led to believe, props up our lifestyles. In fact it&#039;s the other way round, We prop it up!

Phew...  glad I got that off my chest. Thank you. And do call again sometime.

You definitely have a great way with words by the way.

Mick xx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautifully put&#8230; </p>
<p>Got me thinking&#8230;</p>
<p>Edward Bernays (Freud&#8217;s nephew inventor of PR) has a lot to answer for.  He discovered that by tapping into the public&#8217;s sub-conscious you can manipulate their behaviour. IE: Sex sells, so if you use sexiness carefully enough or even overtly, you can give the impression you will become more attractive by making certain purchases&#8230; And fear sells too. Fear of social isolation especially. The &#8216;Because I&#8217;m Worth It&#8217; society that has been created plays into that fear, by leading you to believe that you are only worth something if you buy into a particular look or cosmetic or holiday package. </p>
<p>Like I said this afternoon, anyone who has to look into the mirror and tell themselves that they are worth it has already been convinced that they are NOT by the upside down thinking we are subjected to in modern life. The Job done by the merchandising boys and girls merely cleverly plays on our confusion. Your observation about seasonal and ritual human necessities and the way the advertisers really play up to that is very good.  They really do do a thorough job at researching what motivates human behaviour. But once you start not only to see through that stuff &#8211; because most people do anyway yet are kind of helpless to do anything significant about it &#8211; but to start realising that what or who we really are has nothing to do with what we&#8217;ve been led to believe we are, you begin the inexorable journey towards a different kind of freedom from the one you thought you seeked. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tricky path and is fraught with emotional/psychological booby traps, but with a bit of luck you start to see that this state of freedom was there all along! It was just buried beneath and corrupted by the totally false sense of commoditized self that&#8217;s been created and tipped into our heads since we were let loose on or exposed to the democratic, commercialised, capitalist free market that we have been led to believe, props up our lifestyles. In fact it&#8217;s the other way round, We prop it up!</p>
<p>Phew&#8230;  glad I got that off my chest. Thank you. And do call again sometime.</p>
<p>You definitely have a great way with words by the way.</p>
<p>Mick xx</p>
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